One wrong move and youd be drinking your last illicit cocktail. Mysterious Writings: Featured Contributor Segment and Update, Forgotten History Hunts: Featured Contributor Segment, Privacy Policy, Disclaimer and Affiliate Disclosure. An honest man cannot say more than what he doesnt know. While on his deathbed in 1935, Schultz rambled incoherently about a $7 million dollar fortune he had buried in upstate New York. I read somewhere there was (100) stack in the strong box too. The Albany newspaper says mobster Dutch Schultz, whose real name was . The Albany newspaper says mobster Dutch Schultz, whose real name was Arthur Flegenheimer, allegedly stashed money, gold, jewelry and bonds in a steel box, waterproof safe or a suitcase buried somewhere in the Catskills region in the 1930s. The map can only lead us to the chosen location. Dutch Schultz was an infamous crime boss in New Yorks underworld. How did he do this? He replied, do you think we would be living like this if I knew where that money is. San Peppiatt Please just try it ,okay? I think Dutch used Phoenicia as a desguise to go through it on his way to a specific place he had picked out that is in one of his hideing places buried or placed beneath something so it was excessible to get to instead of buried. Well, maybe declaration is too strong a word. His map reminds me of the treasure island map of the treasure island book. Most likely they would throw false information and since they were familiar with the area they would be familiar with these two spots. Theres no concrete evidence that the treasure exists. But whether this spot is true or not Im not too interested in. Jack French was a Special Agent for the FBI: Dutch Schultz was a very successful and widespread bootlegger, owned a string of speakeasies and then quickly branched out into narcotics, the numbers racket and the protection racket. I say chances are this one was dug up long ago. In 1935, he finally succumbed to gunshot wounds, but left behind a secret in his final breaths. But even if it is, its a clue of where NOT to look, most likely. What if it can be found? Perhaps Dutch Schultzs treasure is still buried somewhere in upstate New York. I was disappointed to find it had been found. They took a day longer than necessary to get here. G. Gordon Liddys Wild Career After Watergate, Your Privacy Choices: Opt Out of Sale/Targeted Ads, Name: Dutch Schultz, Birth Year: 1902, Birth date: August 6, 1902, Birth State: New York, Birth City: New York City, Birth Country: United States. Schultz says he was shot over a million, five million dollars. Best Known For: Gangster Dutch Schultz built up a criminal network that included bootlegging, illegal gambling and murder. http://www.blurb.com/search/site_search?search=Dutch+Schultz+missing+millions. Who would bury a treasure when it can be hid where no one can find it? But determined treasure seekers are certain that it's out there and they're still looking. Around this time, Schultz continued to grow his illicit enterprises, adding illegal gambling to his portfolio of profitable crimes. doing research Ive learned the gangsters of that era did many things in code,so why not a map? Running with fellow criminals like Lucky Luciano, Dutch's life of crime allegedly began in an illegal New York City saloon. At the time of his murder, he was believed to be tangled up in an elongated list of illegal acts ranging from running alcohol up the Hudson River during Prohibition to robbery, murder, and everything in between. Finding lost pieces of information will add to ones specific life story which in turn will increase his historical record. I think there is no support for a Catskills theory once the chronological evidence from May 1935 is threaded. Firm believer of their always some one smarter than you and we all have the same thoughts just at different timesdont believe me look it up! Schultz was killed by members of the notorious hit squad "Murder, Inc." in 1935. Know that what ever is inside the box. Join three groups of treasure hunters, armed with modern technology and newly uncovered clues, as they set out to find the lost treasure of notorious Prohibition-era gangster Dutch Schultz and . He spent months hiding out before surrendering in November 1934. Little creepy but worth to try especially as Shultz said mama is the best bet. He was born Arthur Simon Flegenheimer on August 6, 1901, in the Bronx borough of New York City to German Jewish immigrants Herman and Emma Neu Flegenheimer. In 1920s the area just east of Bridge Street was illegal beer making heaven for the New York area. tern bot that i beleve, How could you look at all the FAKS when you cant even SPELL it? When Dutch Schultz died after contracting an infection from a gunshot wound in 1935, he took his secrets to the grave. Therefore the treasure must be at Hedler; it cant be any where else. (or maybe he did?). The Mysterious Truth Of The Dutch Schultz Treasure. These arewhere we visited. Feds will claim it for shultes back taxes, Paper money perhaps wouldnt survive but there was suppose to be jewels, diamonds and gold coins too. These connections included local private investigator Bruce Alterman and the grandfather of documentary director Elizabeth Trojan, who worked for Schultz as a heavy. No walls. If anyone is interested or still looking I know and have the location I found it after 12 years of research. Mindy studied film at Columbia University; prior to Live Science she produced, wrote and directed media for the American Museum of Natural History in New York City. Hearst Magazine Media, Inc. Site contains certain content that is owned A&E Television Networks, LLC. The area of concern is not that big to investigate and if you know your angle of direction you shouldnt have a problem locating the spot where the treasure was initially buried. The whole upstate map thing has to be a canard. its never been found because its buried just outside Albany,NY . Of course. It all started when Prohibition was passed in 1919. Some say Lulu even drew a map for Marty. Maybe look down there with metal detectors since it was out of metal/iron, Good luck. Arthur Flegenheimer, Alias Dutch Schultz, N.Y. Beer Baron and Racketeer shown in front of N.Y. Federal Court, 1935. In the 1930s he was targeted by both the IRS and special prosecutor Thomas E. Dewey. "Factor in inflation and it's worth over 10 times that today," Hendley said. The X is a common symbol that is used to marks the spot of where a treasure is buried on a map. Shultzs map carries a lot of crosses or crossings which helped him in hiding the symbolic clues that will lead you to the treasure. A brutal man believed to have been responsible for the deaths of many others at his hand or by his order Schultz died the next day. The Lue map also has the same pattern as having several clues on its borders. I hope to find time down the road to go over my library so I can send you the books that I might not use. These connections included local private investigator Bruce Alterman and the grandfather of documentary director Elizabeth Trojan, who worked for Schultz as a heavy. 29. If you identify what you think is the key I will let you know if your right. My mom had asked my dad about the buried treasure. what fascinates me is that Lucky Luciano had a huge interest in dutchs money and if it was ever found he would have known but his cronies looked for it till Luckys dying day. CT. news papers ran pages of the 24hours of ramblings I got very little from the Time Harold record/ new york times except a couple cool days off in the Air Con!, Sann and Burroughs (The last words of Dutch Schultz) Seaver Books 1975 Maybe take out a book on spelling JR.? It contained riches worth an estimated $150 million, or $7 million in those days. I dont doubt that . The Post covers the making of a 2020 PBS documentary, Secrets Of The Dead: Gangsters Gold. Some claim he killed more than 136 people in his lifetime (via Unsolved Mysteries). @ Sam Peppiatt I scouted the area for where I could keep the Devils Face (the Cliffside) in view, for I wouldnt want to be too close, or drawn in too fast as Schultz might have related. The Devils Face is the like-image of the Devil, formed from the Cliffside going out of Phoenicia. Sites he contributes to include The Vintage News, Art Knews Magazine and The Hollywood News. Where exactly he hid his treasure is the mystery. If the hoard still exists, its under twenty feet of roadway within walking distance of the old Palace Chop House. If a rattling or jangling noise was heard, it wasnt surprising. I lost it there in1995. He was staying there with his gilrfriend until he was discovered by the press. What better way to mark it? "He was making a lot of money, even by illicit gangster standards. The moniker stuck. when I heard this story as a teen , I was Researching .It was never recovered . But that is what happened in Malone in the spring and summer of 1935. The end of the road for me will come as soon as Im done explaining Dutch Shultz cipher treasure map which I will do for those who are looking for more information pertaining to the map. And so our government can have them back of course theres a reward probably for finding it. It was known Schultz and his bodyguard had visited Phoenicia, New York during the time of his court case. It would be a shame to waste time looking especially if its gone. The Post covers the making of a 2020 PBS documentary, Secrets Of The Dead: Gangster's Gold.Steve Zazulyk and Ryan Fazekas were the onscreen treasure seekers using personal connections to determine the whereabouts of the treasure. We strive for accuracy and fairness.If you see something that doesn't look right,contact us! It is a nice area though. All rights reserved (About Us). Now I am too old however, I still enjoy reading about lost treasure.. you may be correct jay ,perhaps with a future trial in Albany hed need to be close to his cash. Or maybe they hid it when they drove from Bridgeport to Syracuse, NY for his income tax evasion trial. Stay up to date on the latest science news by signing up for our Essentials newsletter. Its quite the interesting story and place. To support his family, my dad had l left school after the 8th grade, took on a litney of meanial jobs at minimum wage or close to it. From there, Schultz fell in with the formidable Joey Noe, who ran a speakeasy. When the notorious bootlegger and gangsterDutch Schultzwas gunned down in 1935, rumors flew about the fortune that he supposedly left behind. "It's a mystery as to where his money went," Hendley said. But Lulu couldnt keep his mouth shut. For this reason they would need an access road leading to the creek. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Look into the microfiche 35 NY. Schultzs fate was sealed with a bullet. Schultz was annoyed with Dewey and met with the Commission asking for permission to take him out for his irritating investigations. In today's tech-powered world, Schultz's fortune lives on as a "holy grail" for treasure hunters around the globe. I recall reading that plant has been recovered. Legend had it Schultz had hidden valuables now worth more than $50 million (and possibly as much as $150 million), including gold coins, thousand-dollar bills, diamonds and uncashed World War I Liberty Bonds, all stuffed into a strongbox and buried somewhere in the wilds of upstate New York. A treasure buried in Upstate New York may be worth up to $100 million, according to a new report from the Times Union. With Prohibition taking hold of the United States between 1920 and 1933, he got his foot on the ladder and never looked back. Please let me know. No coupons." But Schultz also muttered streams of utter nonsense, including, "Get you onions up, and we will throw up the truce flag" and "No payrolls. Were these strange words simply muddled ramblings, or were they clues to where the treasure might be hidden? Join three groups of treasure hunters, armed with modern technology and newly uncovered clues, as they set out to find the lost treasure of notorious Prohibition-era gangster Dutch Schultz and solve an 85-year-old mystery. Theres a lot more to this story. Some of Schultz's last words were: - A boy has never weptnor dashed a thousand kin., - You can play jacks, and girls do that with a soft ball and do tricks with it., - Oh, Oh, dog Biscuit, and when he is happy he doesnt get snappy.. Did Schultz plant some vegetables after burying his gold, perhaps? Since you cant spell your own first name. Photograph. Steve Palace is a writer, journalist and comedian from the UK. Thats what makes it a treasure mystery, but these are always fun to research. It is often thought this rural area in the Catskillsis most likely where he chose to stash his hoard of money. If they took notes and made the map listed I would think theyd have taken it within a few days. Searching for gangster Dutch Schultz's gold (nypost.com) and the gold coin. Explore the latest news & podcasts. On October 23 rd, 1935, Dutch Schultz, who was a major player in organized crime, was gunned down at the Palace Chop House in Newark, New Jersey. One gruesome story described Schultz and his partner kidnapping a saloonkeeper who was reluctant to do business with them. His first trial ended with a hung jury. His real name was Arthur Simon Flegenheimer. But Davis' claims about the lockbox were never verified. The treasure of Dutch Schultz remains a mystery. the contents of the rather small strong box made in 1933 contained loose diamonds gold coins and jewelry from a robbery done in the 1928 along with $1000 notes bonds, Wellyour almost there..Im bound by promise to not spend by certain date..but will say that whoever brought the bootleg hiding places to light may have been onto something..we werent even in the business..just small time..but a promise is a promise..only proof is a ring and flask with initials and old money, I get it is now under a parking lot, a Bisness has a kind of hard time for business, kind of out of the way, in one case a relator is showing the property, like a office, for rent, but rented now but not moved in, cramped parking, this is all one case, roumers that stuff was buried under the black top, I see a real deep hole, I see a hole like a T, sort of, I think it is NY, hope this helps, Why havent you answered the question. Case File: Dutch Schultz Treasure Location: Phoenicia, New York Date: 1935 Description: The treasure supposedly includes bundles of thousand dollar bills, negotiable Liberty Bonds, gold coins, diamonds, and other gems into a steel plated strongbox, worth more than $50 million dollars. His biggest enemies were Legs Diamond and the IRS. Because, as Fazekas explains, the tendency in the thirties was to conserve precious film. But it was a great time looking. Schultz kept going, even after Prohibition had ended. One secret took the form of a steel strongbox. More from us: Hidden Treasure Chest Worth $1 Million Found Deep in the Rockies. There was an article about it being found in a magazine in the late 60/s or early 80s.. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Will never tell when I dig it up. The Lue map is a crazy puzzle of a cipher map and the creator went to town on this one. Jun. Other shocking statements he blurted out were, "a boy has never weptnor dashed a thousand kin" and "don't let Satan draw you too fast" (via Syracuse). S18 E5 - 30s. Its also possible the treasure never existed or was already found. He would have kept it close, and I suspect he hid it where his buddies were brewing beer at the Hauck (Doelger) brewery in Harrison, NJ, which burned down in 1951. He then claimed that he couldn't understand the map, and gave up after a couple of tries. Community Rules apply to all content you upload or otherwise submit to this site. To find the treasure here is more than just looking into the ground to tell you its there. Using it to take a random shot of the countryside? Its what I do, I decipher treasure maps. In fact he went up there, but her name, the name on the grave stone, was left off the map. He died soon after in the morning hours of the 24th, but possibly not before he offered some clues to where he might have secreted a now lost treasure. The story has inspired a movie (Dustin Hoffman played Schultz in 1991s Billy Bathgate), books, documentaries, a PBS special, and (of course) countless treasure hunters looking for gold in the Catskills. A cross on a map always means a grave, or grave yard, or both. Im going to spend a few more weeks on the ground this year pops, wish me luck the only folks Im telling are Unsolved I found out where Schultz & Lulu stopped for dinner that night digging on a full stomach really sucks Dutch Schultz was born Arthur Flegenheimer on August 6, 1902, in the Bronx section of New York City. Bruce Alterman, author of the book Fear in Phoenicia: The Deadly Hunt for Dutch Schultzs Treasure, told the Times Union that its believed that Rosenkrantz made a treasure map but its unclear if the map was ever recovered. The symbolic clues on this map are located on the lower right section of the map. this stories working on its third generation the strong box was first buried in a garden in Fairfield CT., then dug up and moved by a paranoid mobster, he knew and trusted a group of brewers in Phoenicia area from the bootlegging days, i have lookd at all the faks and i beleve the missing peace of the puzel to the trezer There is not enough information to agree that the treasure has been found. good old Dixie Davis contributed. Heres a clue. Deweys relentless pursuit of Schultz was in efforts to curtail his numerous criminal acts as a leading mobster of the time. In the PBS show "Secrets of the Dead: Gangster's Gold," which premiered Nov. 18, three teams set out tosolve the 85-year-old puzzle, tracking down long-hidden tunnels and hideouts and hoping that satellite maps and ground-penetrating radar will lead them to the buried loot. Everyone has a dead end road which they will find as soon as they are satisfied, including my self. Seeking Forrests treasure is not such a hop, skip and jump! Coins Money And Jewley Thats Pretty Rare For Something To Be Left For Maybe For A Million Years! But allegedly his talk of killing a public figure made some of his fellow gangsters nervous, and they ordered a hit on Schultz instead, hiring members of the mob hit squad "Murder, Inc." to carry out the job. Who still cares about a Prohibition-era tough guy gunned down in a . During the hit, it is possible he was being asked to give up the location. how to treat scours in humans, indeed flex customer service number, atlanta city hall wedding,
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