AA-1B Trainer and TR-2 At that time, the FAA was hesitant to certify a light aircraft with folding wings. Hundreds more for sale . mechanic. New main tires. Annual inspection good till May 2016. . AA1 series of aircraft a fun date.The Yankee, as it was originally called, The three of us range weigh 170/210/270. Inspect the seal around the windshield and check out the locks. 91 or F.A.R 135. to remove the nose bowl cowling, it means removing the propeller The nose comes up but 7 to 8 gph. aircraft colors - red, yellow, orange, even TKM MX11 Comm STC SA7974SW Wheel Fairings Narco Nav122 VOR with Glideslope (rebuilt 2019) with a Yankee and used ballistic chutes to get it to stop. Employing bonded-metal technology for rivetless wing skins, the AA1 carried the promise of greater performance for the power, as well as simpler maintenance, quicker building, and greater strength. With a 585lb useful load, we can take full or nearly full fuel in almost all scenarios. Grumman bought American Aviation in 1971, renaming it Grumman American Aviation and beginning in late 1972 sold the 1973 model year design as the Grumman American AA-1B Trainer for school use. The certification process was complex and expensive, and disagreements arose between Bede and the other shareholders. heading down the runway in your own two-seat plane - bubble Resprayed with single stage polyurethane in 2012 . It also lacked enough rudder to get out I cruise at 135 kts burning about 8 gph (or 140 kts @ 9 gph). Cool. enough. and the Lynx was the sport version. In keeping with its namesake it was six knots (seven mph) faster than the Traveler with the same 150 hp (110 kW) Lycoming O-320-E2G powerplant. Questions: 941-294-6396. I own a 182P and love it for what it does. Climbs at our 1000 fpm. This, of course, makes the Yankees real hot rods, with initial climb rates in excess of 1,200 fpm and cruise speeds in the 130-knot range. This is the only 180HP AA1-B ever STC'd. The Lynx was targeted at private owners while the T-Cat was the flying school trainer. The company designated the redesigned aircraft the AA-1 Yankee Clipper. strips, but it will make you feel like you're flying off the deck of a carrier! No warranty of Have you Cruise speed 160 MPH STC by Ken Blackman The Grumman American AA-1 series is a two-seat aircraft. If that's the case, make sure they have the additional dorsal The Yankees have tight cowlings and tend to run the O-235 hot in the climb, which wreaks havoc on the top end. by knowledgeable pilots. fin and all the paperwork. trainer, helping students develop more high-performance skills. Grumman sold its light aircraft division to Gulfstream Aerospace in 1978 and the division was renamed Gulfstream American. exciting, and fun! The flight in ground effect included a turn to stay away turn final when appropriate, trim for 70 to 80 mph. Range 463. JPI EDM-700 Engine Monitor Aircraft Owners & Pilots Association Find it free on the store. It also became a by the manufacturer or FAA. Most modern AA1's are going to be nose heavy. and look over the installation carefully. All of the AA-1's, AA-1A's and AA-1B's were powered by the Lycoming O-235-C2C low-compression engine, designed for 80/87 Avgas, which produced 108 hp. anyway. Basically similar to the Trainer in terms of airframe and engine, the Tr-2 was intended to satisfy either the pilot who requires an advanced trainer or a more deluxe sports plane. [3][4][5][6][8][9], The Yankee was originally designed to minimize the number of airframe parts used, with the aim of simplifying production and saving money. 2.5 with reserve), can go up to 13,500ft (solo, standard temp TESTED). At least mine is, with just me and fuel I am right on the line of the forward cg and in cruise often see the elevator trimmed in level flight to be flying down. Our CFI is 200lbs. Cruises at 160MPH. Takeoff distance (50) 1,590. fitness for any purpose is made or implied. got a 1600-lb gross weight and a larger elevator. Bede decided to certify the design under the then-new FAR Part 23 rules and offer it as a completed aircraft. in that it's made from bonded aluminum honeycomb, has no rivets, and has the rates for a Cessna 150. is an impossibility without a tow bar (the American Yankee Association used The little Lycomings are durable, but they wont stand for neglect. SP-ASEL (tailwheel) Luscombe 8A FlyingForFun Posts: 509 I want something to build hours in - mostly sightseeing and short cross countries. Check these bushings. Ultimately, America wasnt quite ready for the kind of fun the Yankees were ready to dish out. Buying an AA1 can be a thrilling experience or the worst nightmare Many STC mods to accommodate the O-360 including aux tanks, gross weight increase, AA5 nose gear, cowl flaps, dorsal fin, and speed fairings. Stall is around 64 mph without flaps As a note we used the same hull value for ALL the planes to keep it apples to apples. Narco CP125 Audio Panel The Grumman American AA-1 series is a family of light, two-seat aircraft. Modifications included a 108-hp engine (instead of the original 65 hp), The main cabin structure is made up of aluminum honeycomb panels, which are both quite strong and light, mated to a glued-together monocoque empennage. I'd say the proof is in the insurance pudding. Most insurance companies will require about ten hours dual before they Look little two- seat aircraft into a civilized "production" plane. Copyright 2023 Sandhills Global | Reproduction without expressed written consent is forbidden. to determine, take a very careful look at all the seams and edges. Once off the ground the left tank went past [1][3][4][5][6], Grumman bought American Aviation in 1971, renaming it Grumman American Aviation, and beginning in late 1972 sold the 1973 model year design as the Grumman American AA-1B Trainer for school use. of the airport. No matter the model, the airplanes in the AA1 series share mechanical simplicity and durability. The wing Check for corrosion all over the aircraft, including the main landing Big engines should (My Smith Miniplane does the same thing, Sign in to continue reading 1971 Grumman American Trainer AA1A By Staff Updated February 22, 2016 Save Article The recontoured leading edge produced softer stall characteristics and permitted lower approach speeds. The concept is, again, simple. 1977 saw the biggest changes. It's just not that difficult or dangerous. They Discussion in 'Flight Following' started by Pedals2Paddles, Oct 8, 2014. Most of the structure is made up of formed aluminum glued to conventional structural members; think of the glue as replacing rivets, and you get the idea. Much higher stall speeds and prone to spinning. The fuel gauges are sight tubes in the cockpit. Beech. As a trainer it's considered too "hot" by most because Ameriking AK-450 ELT with remote switch, Bruce's cabin cover [1][3][4][5][6], The remaining accidents were generally attributed to the AA-1's short endurance (3.3 hours), inability to use short grass strips and high approach speeds (8590mph). Sounds like the Grumman, not so much. gear brackets and nose gear fittings. Dream on! 8. One reason is room, another is weight, but the best is KISS - Keep Look for dents or wrinkles in the tail surfaces, which are easily Back-up vacuum system. Cool. the higher the price, the more stuff to play with. are on a long torque tube. While this did tame the AA-1's sharp stall, it also reduced the cruise speed compared to the original AA-1 by 10 mph. American Aviation built 459 examples of the AA-1 Yankee Clipper between 1969 and 1971 at their factory in Cleveland, Ohio. damaged by people putting pressure on them. The Trainer is factory fitted with a climb prop, 71 inches in diameter with a 53-inch pitch. a lot of runway to get in the air. [1][5][6], The AA-1C received a new larger horizontal tail and other significant improvements, including a 115hp Lycoming O-235-L2C high-compression engine designed for 100LL fuel, which brought the cruise speed back up to that of the original 108hp Yankee. The engine is a Lycoming Model O-235-C2C and is rated at 108 horsepower. 12. The 1974 year's production was taken over by Grumman American who were instrumental in producing the AA-1C Lynx and T-Cat in 1977. One last time, go over Backing into the hangar If you try to save the landing and start I briefed him on the W&B points made here to carefully verify it all. (There was an AD to put a colored marker in But 5. A truly awful plane that creates sloppy pilots. stay-on-the-airport-runway airplane; the original design might have been We were using full throttle, 2,600 rpm, at the time, which produced 60% power at that altitude. Grumman's engineers felt that the AA-5 design had more speed potential than the original Traveler, even with its 1975 improvements, and so embarked on an aerodynamic cleanup and redesign. AA-5 Traveler & AA-5A Cheetah Competitive Comparison, AA-5B & AG-5B Tiger Competitive Comparison, Instructors- Pilot Familiarization Program. One thing to always remember about the Yankee, whatever model, is Marc E. Cook, AOPA Pilot, April 1993. Verify that the stuff under the cowl and behind the propeller works. For example, the redesign of the AA-1B into the AA-1C by Gulfstream involved wider-span elevators and horizontal stabilizers that produced better longitudinal stability, but were no longer interchangeable with the rudder and fin. It climbs like a bat out of hell and has a service ceiling of 21,000 feet! The AA-1A has a lower max gross weight, which somewhat limits payload. A total of 900 Cheetahs were produced. If the pilot is properly trained on the aircraft and stays within its limitations, data show that it is as safe as any other light aircraft. Of course, While the real "rush" may be Limbaugh, this rush is the exhilaration was traded for a Lycoming O-235-L2C that developed 115 hp. Up for sale a nice "74 Grumman AA1B. 185 lbs and full fuel of 22 gal. Performance data and specificationsfor American Aviation, Grumman American, Gulfstream Aerican and and AmericanGeneral light aircraft. Changes were made to the engine cowling and baffling to reduce cooling drag, the exhaust system was redesigned, the main landing gear fairings . American took over the production and design, trying to turn the exciting Bede formed a company, Bede Aviation Corporation, based in Cleveland Ohio, to produce the aircraft, but the BD-1 never entered production as a certified aircraft. choice of "trainer" with a climb prop or "sport" with a cruise prop. pleasure quotient is tremendous. 1973 GRUMMAN/AMERICAN GENERAL AA1B $66,000 Reg# N1CQ TT: 2168; Performance Specs. is only about 500 lbs (fuel, passengers, and stuff). For instance, because the flaps were the same part as the ailerons they were too small to be effective as flaps. All rights reserved. After reading about AA1-A's, it seems that they are a lot faster than a 150 without giving up useful load or endurance. It didn't have a transponder and it didn't have good paint, but doesn't include clear space at the ends. USA's 7. Line up on the centerline, More that a few 150-hp AA1s are single-pilot mounts. One problem with my Yankee was that the bushings in the ailerons came I was surprised to be flying along and suddenly have the outer end King KN64 DME I wouldn't call it much higher. The engine can turn 2700 with no problem, and 2800 for takeoff. Subscriptions/Orders: 800-356-7767. After seeing lots of Grumman AA1-A's though, I got interested. The 150 is probably forgiving of screwing up the W&B. 5, and 10 fame) as the Bede 1. The company designated the redesigned aircraft the AA-1 Yankee Clipper. (A bit of trivia: Lycoming says that It was the only runway pointing into the wind, a wind strong No BD-1 kits were ever sold. Language links are at the top of the page across from the title. These names were chosen to position the aircraft in the Gulfstream American line which, at that time featured the Cheetah, Tiger and the Cougar. The AA-1 had been spin-tested as part of its certification, but in 1973 the FAA issued Airworthiness Directive 73-13-07 ordering the aircraft placarded against spins. (and the flat, plowed fields of the Midwest), I wouldn't have made it out Do a few calculations: 185 lbs pilot plus Taxiing is easy. [1][4][5][6], All the AA-1s, AA-1As and AA-1Bs were powered by the Lycoming O-235-C2C low-compression engine designed for 80/87 avgas, which produced 108hp. prop - not a nice claim on your insurance. A sunscreen is helpful to keep out the heat 4489.4 total time, and 923.6 hours since engine overhaul (July 2006). Our CFI is 200lbs. fact, it's so bouncy that if you hit the nose gear first, you probably ought Garmin GTX327 Transponder with AR850 encoder The T-Cat was the trainer go and push the brakes to turn the aircraft. American Aviation, by then Grumman, quickly saw that the Yankees quirky handling qualities were hurting sales and set about designing fixes. Bruce's cover and cowl plugs. And rates aren't too bad, slightly higher than Two other items because the O-235 generally is prone to lead fouling, check the condition of the spark plugs carefully, and look for high oil consumption. 2023 The Grumman Owners and Pilots Association. if it really was); it wasn't designed for long cross-country. Many examples of the AA-1 series have been exported to many countries around the world. 2023 The Grumman Owners and Pilots Association. But they remain today a great flying bargain, with good reliability, a very good parts outlook, and a cadre of loyal owners. American Aviation. Don't go anywhere without the STC papers approving the conversion The Yankee AA1 was originally designed by Jim Bede (of the Bede 4, - not Everything's a compromise. New fiberglass tail cone. doesn't have an oil cooler (you should put one on) make sure it is inspected AA5 Nose Gear The electrical system uses a 14-volt, 40-amp alternator and a 25 ampere-hour battery. Horsepower: 1 x 150 HP. Due to the use of a non-tapered tubular spar, which doubled as the fuel tank, and the lack of wing washout, the wings could be exchanged left and right. An auxiliary electric fuel pump is installed for use in the event of failure of the engine-driven pump. It's still is a truck! Fuel gauges (in the form of sight tubes) have very little failure, The lack of wing washout, necessitated by the wing interchangeability requirement, meant that stall strips had to be installed to produce acceptable stall characteristics for certification. Strip, inspect, and repaint. Small and cheap to operate, the Yankee had the potential to be better. ever met an aircraft owner and pilot who didn't take great pleasure in flying? Check all the Stall Speed: 50 KIAS. In sheer numbers, the AA1s are barely a blip on the charts compared to the Cessna 150 or even the Piper Tomahawk. 108 hp, tricycle gear. Two doors, good useful load, decent operational flexibility. Similar Aircraft for Sale 1969 Grumman American AA-1 Yankee 1978 Grumman American AA-5B Tiger 1976 Grumman American AA-5B Tiger 1975 Grumman American AA-5 Traveler 2007 Cirrus SR22-G3 Turbo 1980 Cessna 310R 2009 Cirrus SR22-G3 Turbo 2014 Cirrus Flying should be some combination of both fun and utility - although everything is relative to the eye of the beholder. The airplane was designed as a trainer (although many question but I did not realize the Yankee/Traveler was included. This is good practice for Jim Campbell/US Aviator Magazine. aircraft was repainted, check to see if it was a total strip and repaint. This cruise propeller accounts for the increase in top and cruise speed plus about 30 additional miles in total range; however, the Tr-2 suffers in the climb department with a 660-fpm capability compared to the Trainers 705-fpm climb speed. Best Cruise Speed: 129 KIAS. should be easy and one-handed. Someone is marketing a '71 model as LSA. Some AA-1s have been converted to taildragger configuration. instructors who feel the "demanding habits" of the Yankee make it a better I think they fit everything for my mission perfectly but with a family I am trying to figure out if it is more of a risky platform. few changes that also changed the model names. are also the wing spars. The Yankee was originally designed in 1962 by Jim Bede as the BD-1 and was intended to be sold as a kit-built aircraft. The only down side is that the AA1A is already a short legged plane, 22 gal total fuel load, which will be worse unless you throttle that O320 way back in cruise. but they can be hard to see. for under $7000 what do you expect. 6. Whats Going On with Cessna Denali Turboprop. What it did offer was cheap flying fun. You cannot overload the plane and then fly safely, no matter where the weight is. However, duly noted not to exceed. that it likes pavement and it likes runway. Landing distance (50) 1,100. Never try to do it yourself - even if you are a mechanic We now cruise 120ktas on 8.gph, and climb from sea level 1000-1500+fpm at max gross, depending on the conditions. pleasure quotient is tremendous. Simple Stupid. AA1s are GREAT airplanes, very simple, lots more plane compared to a Cessna 152/172, very good trainer if you're going to be stepping into a high performance high speed airplane. It's about 10 knots faster than my c150. Just make sure there aren't an unusual amount of cracks. February 2021 Annual. Most people are used to the pathetic dumptruck handling and performance of 172/182 where the yoke has several inches where nothing happens and the rudder pedals are basically there for show and the plane can just (sometimes) barely squeeze out 130 KTAS. Join Us | Member Benefits |News| Events |Contact Us. [1], The Yankee was originally designed in 1962 by Jim Bede as the BD-1 and was intended to be sold as a kit-built aircraft. All the AA-1s, AA-1As and AA-1Bs were powered by the Lycoming O-235 -C2C low-compression engine designed for 80/87 avgas, which produced 108 hp. Americas owner-flown aircraft enthusiasts and active-pilot resource, delivered to your inbox! 211 AA-1Cs were produced in 1977 and 1978. the market. Folks in the Grumman Gang mail list could give you detailed performance info. But the Be honest with your ability and experience. Simplicity is the word. Rate of climb: 660 FPM. With its ultra-reliable 108HP Lycoming O-235-C2C low-compression engine, docile flight characteristics in the stall and sturdy design, the type has been loved for years, although in less numbers across the world than its Cessna and Piper competition.This . Primary use for the next year will be primary PPL training, followed by pleasure use. PERFORMANCE: Top mph 144. STC SA789NW 180HP Conversion with Cowl Flaps The 1973 model was the AA1B, which offered the On handling qualities, what follows is either good news or bad, depending upon your point of view. The Grumman light aircraft line was then acquired by Gulfstream Aerospace in 1977 who formed it into their light aircraft division, Gulfstream American, in Savannah, Georgia. and look for the clearing at the end of the runway. mechanically inclined. What a Scan this QR code to download the app now. The maingear legs are fiberglass. is not an aircraft for everyone. for buying should always include a good prepurchase inspection by a qualified The AA1B has a basic useful load of more than 450 pounds. If that's true, your airplane isn't set up properly -- something an AYA PFPI would have detected right from the start. Fuel Burn @ 75%: 8.5 GPH. Many things I've read also state that the AA1B is not nearly as forgiving as a 150 (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Lycoming O-235s may be thrifty but they also run hot. Precise Flight Stand-by Vacuum System Plane and Pilot builds on more than 50 years of serving pilots and owners of aircraft with the goal of empowering our readers to improve their knowledge and enthusiasm for aviation. First flight was on March 25, 1970 and 470 AA-1As were built in 1971-72. [1][5][6], Data from The American Trainer Owner's Manual[8], Aircraft of comparable role, configuration, and era. The timing can be set back to 20deg, and the prop can be twisted to ~52/53" pitch and the take off at high weight will be a lot more crisp. This first model was one of The certification process was complex and expensive and disagreements arose between Bede and the other shareholders. the quickest and fastest, and have the most abrupt stalls. I briefed him on the W&B points made here to carefully verify it all. To my knowledge it is the only STC'd 180HP Grumman AA1-B ever made. This would be replacing the current C150. Get the training if you have That The aircraft is an all-metal, two-place, low-wing, single-engine airplane, equipped with tricycle landing gear. The fuel tanks While this did tame the AA-1's sharp stall, it also reduced the cruise speed compared to the original AA-1 by 10mph. for approved maneuvers. Not good! The family includes the original American Aviation AA-1 Yankee and AA-1A Trainer, the Grumman American AA-1B Trainer and TR-2, plus the Gulfstream American AA-1C Lynx and T-Cat. Blue Sky Visors
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